2005 Express Edition: No symbols loaded. Why???

[0***@gmail.com]

I verified that both /Zi (compiler) and /DEBUG (linker) are included
in the command line.

However, when I run the program I receive lots of "No symbols loaded"
messages in the output windows:

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll', No symbols loaded.

Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\winmm.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\gdi32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\advapi32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\rpcrt4.dll', No symbols loaded.

Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-
Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll',
No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\shlwapi.dll', No symbols loaded.

Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS
\x86_Microsoft.VC80.DebugCRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-
ww_f75eb16c\msvcp80d.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS
\x86_Microsoft.VC80.DebugCRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-
ww_f75eb16c\msvcr80d.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleacc.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcp60.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\setupapi.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\lpk.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\wintrust.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypt32.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\msasn1.dll', No symbols loaded.
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\imagehlp.dll', No symbols loaded.
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I don't mind so much about the non-debug system DLLs (e.g. ntdll.dll,
kernel32.dll, etc.) - but why are no symbols loaded for msvcr80d.dll ?

What is missing? What I am missing?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as this got me stuck in my
efforts to debug some memory leaks (using the
{,,msvcr80d.dll}_crtBreakAlloc mthod).

Thanks!
Don

[Nathan Mates]

Post by 0***@gmail.com
I verified that both /Zi (compiler) and /DEBUG (linker) are included
in the command line.
However, when I run the program I receive lots of "No symbols loaded"
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll', No symbols loaded.

[Lots more similar lines snipped.] Those DLLs you listed aren't
built as part of your app. (Well, they shouldn't be.) They're part of
Windows. Therefore, you'll need to grab the symbols for those Windows
DLLs from MS. You can get those by going to
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx and
picking the appropriate version of Windows out of the list.

Try doing the (huge) download, and installing it, then re-running
your app.

Post by 0***@gmail.com
Any help would be greatly appreciated as this got me stuck in my
efforts to debug some memory leaks (using the
{,,msvcr80d.dll}_crtBreakAlloc mthod).

Symbols are irrelevant to memory leaks. Their origin is 99.9% of
the time in your code. Not msvcr80d or the like. Sure, go ahead and
download the MS symbol packs, as that greatly reduces spam at startup.
But, your real issue at hand is how to find memory leaks. Try something
like
http://www.codeproject.com/tools/visualleakdetector.asp .

Nathan Mates
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[0***@gmail.com]

Nathan, thank you so much!!! You just saved me lots of time and agony.
I will sure check the VLD solution first.

BTW, >{,,msvcr80d.dll}_crtBreakAlloc method will refuse to work
without the msvcr80d symbols. That's why I needed them. But if there
is a better solution (VLD), why not use it?

Thanks,
Don

Post by Nathan Mates

Post by 0***@gmail.com
I verified that both /Zi (compiler) and /DEBUG (linker) are included
in the command line.
However, when I run the program I receive lots of "No symbols loaded"
Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll', No symbols loaded.

[Lots more similar lines snipped.] Those DLLs you listed aren't
built as part of your app. (Well, they shouldn't be.) They're part of
Windows. Therefore, you'll need to grab the symbols for those Windows
DLLs from MS. You can get those by going tohttp://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/symbolpkg.mspxand
picking the appropriate version of Windows out of the list.
Try doing the (huge) download, and installing it, then re-running
your app.

Post by 0***@gmail.com
Any help would be greatly appreciated as this got me stuck in my
efforts to debug some memory leaks (using the
{,,msvcr80d.dll}_crtBreakAlloc mthod).

Symbols are irrelevant to memory leaks. Their origin is 99.9% of
the time in your code. Not msvcr80d or the like. Sure, go ahead and
download the MS symbol packs, as that greatly reduces spam at startup.
But, your real issue at hand is how to find memory leaks. Try something
likehttp://www.codeproject.com/tools/visualleakdetector.asp.
Nathan Mates

[Mike Vance]

Thank you, Nathan. I needed that link :-)

Post by Nathan Mates
You can get those by going to
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx and
picking the appropriate version of Windows out of the list.